Germany: don’t blame proportional representation

Thursday, 22 September 2005, 22:37

I’m with Jarndyce: it makes no sense to use the situation in Germany as an argument against proportional representation in Britain.

A letter to the Guardian by one Mathieu Capcarrere of Canterbury, Kent, perfectly captures what I have been thinking since reading all those rants about how Germany’s system of proportional representation is to blame for its current political uncertainty:

Maybe the problem with Germany is that it is actually a democracy. As a reminder,the share of UK’s vote in the 2005 election were: Labour: 35.3%, Conservative: 32.3%, Lib Dem: 22.1%, Other: 10.3% … Which is pretty close to what everyone calls a catastrophic result in Germany.

Indeed. In a parliamentary democracy where the electorate elects the legislature, which in turn must agree on an executive committee to form the government, there is nothing wrong with the sort of difficult horse-trading that is currently preoccupying the Bundestag party groups.

I can’t understand why some people like, for example, Brian Barder or Tom Watson MP, think an electoral system that forces “a clear and decisive result” is preferable to one that leads to a weak executive forced to compromise. The latter, it seems to me, is a more accurate reflection of the will of the electorate when they return results like those in Germany — and Britain.

Both Tony Blair and Angela Merkel lead parties that have the support of a minority: Labour’s 35.3 per cent is nearly the same as 35.2 per cent the CDU/CSU took in Germany. Yet the almost identical minority result guarantees Tony Blair a clear Parliamentary majority, while Angela Merkel won’t be able to form a government unless she is willing to water down her policies until they are acceptable to enough parties to reflect a majority of the electorate.

Forcing compromise on a plurality party with no democratic mandate to govern is, after all, is the role of the small “kingmaker” parties that PR opponents worry about.

The problem with blaming PR of the situation in Germany, moreover, is that it’s a testable hypothesis that falls flat when confronted with the facts.

Only half of the Bundestag owes its seats to state party lists and proportional representation. The other half of the chamber are actually British-style constituency MPs. A quick glance at the official results released by the Federal Returning Officer shows that an entirely first-past-the-post election would have led to more or less the same outcome.

If we simply ignore the half of the Bundestag that is elected by PR, and concentrate on the 299 MdBs elected by direktmandat (ie, the first-past-the-post constituency MPs), the composition of the new Bundestag would look like this:

SPD: 145 seats
CDU: 105 seats
CSU: 44 seats
Greens: 1 seat
Left: 3 seats
FDP: 0 seats

This would give the conservative CDU/CSU bloc a four-seat lead over the SPD. But with the Left and Greens likely to lend their four votes to an SPD opposition rather than a CDU government, we’re back to a hung parliament.

Some quick readers will have realised by now that 299 isn’t divisible by two. There’s one constituency seat open due to the death, during the campaign, of a neo-Nazi candidate in Dresden 1. The byelection there is on 2 October. The CDU incumbent in that seat won by just 2.5 per cent in 2002 with the proto-Linkspartei PDS taking 20 per cent in hird place.

In an entirely FPTP German election the 2 October by-election would become a circus like no other: the balance of power in Berlin would depend on the outcome.

If, in this bizzaro-world, the CDU won Dresden, Merkel would form a government with a one-seat majority. If, however, the SPD or Linkspartei took the seat, there would again be a hung parliament with all the same arguments as exist in real-world Germany today. A minority government would be the likely outcome. New elections would only be a matter of time.

Proportional representation did not cause the current situation. The voters did. Democracy is a bitch, huh?

Update: See also DoctorVee.

Update: The same argument applies in New Zealand.

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  • 1. Brian Barder | 23 September 2005 at 1801

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    Martin,

    You say:

    I can’t understand why some people like, for example, Brian Barder or Tom Watson MP, think an electoral system that forces ‘a clear and decisive result’ is preferable to one that leads to a weak executive forced to compromise. The latter, it seems to me, is a more accurate reflection of the will of the electorate when they return results like those in Germany – and Britain.

    But the fact that under PR (and much more rarely under FPTP) an almost evenly divided electorate votes in a way that produces ‘a weak executive forced to compromise’ doesn’t mean that that outcome was desired by any single voter. When political opinions diverge widely, it’s meaningless to talk about ‘the will of the electorate’. The German and UK election results are perfectly consistent with the vast majority of voters ‘ i.e. the 60 to 70 percent of them who voted for one or other of the two biggest parties ‘all having wanted their chosen party to win a safe majority in ‘a clear and decisive outcome’ so that the country might be governed stably and with a clear sense of direction.

    You say:

    Both Tony Blair and Angela Merkel lead parties that have the support of a minority: Labour’s 35.3 per cent is nearly the same as 35.2 per cent the CDU/CSU took in Germany. Yet the almost identical minority result guarantees Tony Blair a clear Parliamentary majority, while Angela Merkel won’t be able to form a government unless she is willing to water down her policies until they are acceptable to enough parties to reflect a majority of the electorate.

    This seems to brush aside the fact that since 1935 no British political party has ever won half or more of the total votes cast. Every government since 1935 has been in the position that more voters voted against it (or at any rate voted for a different party) than for it. Under the German system of PR every single British government would have been forced to form a coalition (formally or informally) in order to be able to govern. This is a recipe for fudged policies for which no-one voted at the election, for messy compromise, for instability (it’s always open to the smaller party in the coalition to throw its weight behind another larger party and thus precipitate a change of government without even an election to endorse or justify it, as has happened in Germany) and for unpredictability. No business or finance company can safely plan ahead in such circumstances. The likeliest outcome is virtual paralysis

    In an entirely FPTP German election the 2 October by-election would become a circus like no other: the balance of power in Berlin would depend on the outcome. If, in this bizzaro-world, the CDU won Dresden, Merkel would form a government with a one-seat majority. If, however, the SPD or Linkspartei took the seat, there would again be a hung parliament with all the same arguments as exist in real-world Germany today. A minority government would be the likely outcome. New elections would only be a matter of time. Proportional representation did not cause the current situation. The voters did. Democracy is a bitch, huh?

    All you are saying here is that because the two main parties have received such a similar level of support, with the third party not all that far behind, the result would have been a hung parliament and the need for coalition-mongering after the election whether the election had been held under PR or FPTP. But that proves nothing, except the obvious point that FPTP can in exceptional circumstances produce a hung parliament. We knew that already. We also knew, didn’t we?, that on all the copious evidence, even when the main parties are very close in their level of support, FPTP very rarely indeed produces a hung parliament or the risk of fudge and paralysis that goes with it, whereas PR is guaranteed to produce that outcome every single time. And, as noted earlier, it’s quite wrong to say that the voters caused the current situation in Germany: the system was absolutely guaranteed to produce it, whereas the main alternative system available would probably have produced it too on this occasion, but very rarely on others, even if the voters behaved in much the same way.

    There are useful discussions of these issues at (for example) http://tinyurl.com/95p3c , including the comments, following on from the post of Jarndyce’s which you cite. For an especially interesting exchange, see http://tinyurl.com/7d9j6.

    Brian
    http://www.barder.com/ephems/

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Germany: don’t blame proportional representation

A letter to the Guardian, by one Mathieu Capcarrere of Canterbury, Kent, perfectly captures what I have been thinking since reading all those rants about how Germany’s system of proportional representation is to blame for its current political uncertainty:

Maybe the problem with Germany is that it is actually a democracy. As a reminder,the share of UK’s vote in the 2005 election were: Labour: 35.3%, Conservative: 32.3%, Lib Dem: 22.1%, Other: 10.3% … Which is pretty close to what everyone calls a catastrophic result in Germany.

Indeed. In a parliamentary democracy where the electorate elects the legislature, which in turn must agree on an executive committee to form the government, there is nothing wrong with the sort of difficult horse-trading that is currently preoccupying the Bundestag party groups.

I can’t understand why people like Brian Barder think having a “ ” (guaranteed by first-past-the-post) is preferable to a weak executive forced to compromise. The latter, it seems to me, is a more accurate reflection of the will of the electorate when they return results like those in Germany — and Britain.

Compared with Labour’s 35.3 per cent, CDU/CSU took 35.2 per cent in Germany. The almost identical minority result guarantees Tony Blair a clear Parliamentary majority, while Angela Merkel won’t be able to form a government unless she is willing to compromise until her

Instead, Britain has a Labour government capable of pushing through its every whim despite having the backing of roughly the same minorty share of the

The problem with blaming PR is that it’s a testable hypothesis that falls flat when confronted with evidence. Only half of the Bundestag owes its seats to state party lists elected proportionally. The other half of the chamber are actually British-style constituency MPs.

A quick glance at the official results released by the Federal Returning Officer allows us that an entirely FTPT German election would have yielded results just as inconclusive as the ones that actually occured.

If we simply ignore the half of the Bundestag that is elected by PR, and concentrate on the 299 MdBs elected by direktmandat (ie, first-past-the-postconstituency MPs), the composition of the new Bundestag would look like this:

SPD: 145 seats
CDU: 105 seats
CSU: 44 seats
Greens: 1 seat
Left: 3 seats
FDP: 0 seats

This would give the conservative CDU/CSU bloc a four-seat lead over the SPD. But with the Left and Greens likely to lend their four votes to an SPD opposition rather than a CDU government, we’re back to a hung parliament.

Some quick readers will have realised by now that 299 isn’t divisible by two. There’s one constituency seat open due to the death of a neo-Nazi candidate in in Dresden 1. The byelection there is on 2 October. The CDU incubent in that seat won by just 2.5 per cent in 2002 with the proto-Linkspartei PDS taking 20 per cent in hird place.

In an entirely FPTP German election the 2 October by-election would become a circus like no other: the balance of power in Berlin would depend on the outcome.

If, in this bizzaro-world, the CDU won Dresden, Merkel would form a government with a one-seat majority. If the SPD or Linkspartei took the seat, there would again be a hung parliament with all the same arguments as exist in real-world Germany today. A minority government would be a likely outcome. New elections would only be a matter of time.

Proportional representation did not cause the current situation. The voters did.

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