Comments on: Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/ A UK-centric look at new media and online journalism Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:06:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Public Speaking or In the News « DigiDave – Journalism is a Process, Not a Product http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-52356 Public Speaking or In the News « DigiDave – Journalism is a Process, Not a Product Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:34:44 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-52356 [...] Martin Stabe – Looking for journalism student heroes? “Dave Cohn a student at Columbia University and editor of NewAssignment.net, is certainly a good example to point out.” [...] [...] Martin Stabe – Looking for journalism student heroes? “Dave Cohn a student at Columbia University and editor of NewAssignment.net, is certainly a good example to point out.” [...]

]]> By: Howie Good http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-14474 Howie Good Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:37:04 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-14474 hello? hello?

]]> By: Howie Good http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-14470 Howie Good Wed, 21 Feb 2007 02:53:52 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-14470 I'm a journalism prof in the U.S. One of my teaching and research areas is ethics. I've asked other journalism profs via posts on a couple of Web sites to nominate journalists, living or dead, to put before our students as moral exemplars. I also asked them to briefly explain why they think these journalists qualify. So far . . . nothing. Does that speak to the state of journalism ethics or the state of journalism education or both? And while we're at it, who do you think belongs on any such list? I’m a journalism prof in the U.S. One of my teaching and research areas is ethics. I’ve asked other journalism profs via posts on a couple of Web sites to nominate journalists, living or dead, to put before our students as moral exemplars. I also asked them to briefly explain why they think these journalists qualify. So far . . . nothing. Does that speak to the state of journalism ethics or the state of journalism education or both? And while we’re at it, who do you think belongs on any such list?

]]> By: Benjie Boy http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12761 Benjie Boy Sat, 20 Jan 2007 01:56:17 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12761 DC for chaplan DC for chaplan

]]> By: Invisible Inkling » Blog Archive » Journalism students need new heroes; Journalism heroes need new students http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12650 Invisible Inkling » Blog Archive » Journalism students need new heroes; Journalism heroes need new students Thu, 18 Jan 2007 06:23:56 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12650 [...] Lee read Martin Stabe’s follow-up to “The conservatism of journalism students” and put out a call for more heroes in journalism. [...] [...] Lee read Martin Stabe’s follow-up to “The conservatism of journalism students” and put out a call for more heroes in journalism. [...]

]]> By: David Cohn http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12646 David Cohn Thu, 18 Jan 2007 04:51:45 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12646 Don't you hate when you make a comment, read it over and realize you made a word slip. I meant "this entire thread of links and comments is right on the nose." Eh... it happens...and a little humility never hurt. Don’t you hate when you make a comment, read it over and realize you made a word slip. I meant “this entire thread of links and comments is right on the nose.”

Eh… it happens…and a little humility never hurt.

]]> By: David Cohn http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12633 David Cohn Wed, 17 Jan 2007 23:30:06 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12633 Martin -- thanks for your confidence and compliment. This entire thread of links and comments is right on the noise -- journalism students need new heros. Your example of Adam Penenberg is perfect. He was a hero to me, especially because he had a column at Wired News when I was an intern there. I think I got lucky in the draw -- I was intrigued by journalism, the idea of engaging in the national conversation, but I am also, for lack of a better word -- a geek. In addition to Woodward, Bernstein and other journalists, I look up to Craig Newmark, Jimmy Wales and other geek idols. They inspire me to go beyond research, reporting etc (all the irreplaceable fundamentals) to question the modes, mediums and practices of journalism. Martin — thanks for your confidence and compliment.

This entire thread of links and comments is right on the noise — journalism students need new heros.

Your example of Adam Penenberg is perfect. He was a hero to me, especially because he had a column at Wired News when I was an intern there.

I think I got lucky in the draw — I was intrigued by journalism, the idea of engaging in the national conversation, but I am also, for lack of a better word — a geek.

In addition to Woodward, Bernstein and other journalists, I look up to Craig Newmark, Jimmy Wales and other geek idols. They inspire me to go beyond research, reporting etc (all the irreplaceable fundamentals) to question the modes, mediums and practices of journalism.

]]> By: Bryan Murley http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12613 Bryan Murley Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:00:27 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12613 David Cohn will be speaking at our CMA session in New York this March. Good thing we booked him before he became a "hero." :-) David Cohn will be speaking at our CMA session in New York this March. Good thing we booked him before he became a “hero.” :-)

]]> By: Innovation in College Media » Blog Archive » New journalism heroes? http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12610 Innovation in College Media » Blog Archive » New journalism heroes? Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:48:16 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12610 [...] Martin Stabe asks for journalism schools to give journalism students new heroes to replace the old standbys of Woodward and Bernstein. [...] [...] Martin Stabe asks for journalism schools to give journalism students new heroes to replace the old standbys of Woodward and Bernstein. [...]

]]> By: Innovation in College Media » Blog Archive » The swirling vortex of journalism ed http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12606 Innovation in College Media » Blog Archive » The swirling vortex of journalism ed Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:26:46 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12606 [...] There’s lots of interesting discussion going on about the state of journalism education, much of it crossing the Atlantic. Read these posts from Andy Dickinson, Martin Stabe, Kevin Anderson, and Andrew Grant-Adamson in the UK, practioners and academics all. Then read this from Dave Lee, a student in the UK. In the U.S., of course, there’s Mindy McAdams’ post from last week that started this ball rolling. Then there’s Bob Stepno. And don’t miss Ryan Sholin’s young gun words of wisdom. Or Matt Waite. Or Danny Sanchez. I’d like to see some thoughts from U.S. journalism students who write blogs. I know they’re out there. Link in, folks. This is your future we’re talking about here. Lots to read there. Lots to think about. But the very fact that there are so many people talking about these issues and sharing ideas with each other increases the possibility that we’ll all benefit. It’s that “wisdom of crowds” thing again. This whole conversation illustrates something Howard Owens mentioned in his interview with me. There’s a social nature to the World Wide Web that you have to be a part of to understand. And journalists need to increase their understanding. Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...] [...] There’s lots of interesting discussion going on about the state of journalism education, much of it crossing the Atlantic. Read these posts from Andy Dickinson, Martin Stabe, Kevin Anderson, and Andrew Grant-Adamson in the UK, practioners and academics all. Then read this from Dave Lee, a student in the UK. In the U.S., of course, there’s Mindy McAdams’ post from last week that started this ball rolling. Then there’s Bob Stepno. And don’t miss Ryan Sholin’s young gun words of wisdom. Or Matt Waite. Or Danny Sanchez. I’d like to see some thoughts from U.S. journalism students who write blogs. I know they’re out there. Link in, folks. This is your future we’re talking about here. Lots to read there. Lots to think about. But the very fact that there are so many people talking about these issues and sharing ideas with each other increases the possibility that we’ll all benefit. It’s that “wisdom of crowds” thing again. This whole conversation illustrates something Howard Owens mentioned in his interview with me. There’s a social nature to the World Wide Web that you have to be a part of to understand. And journalists need to increase their understanding. Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

]]> By: Andy Dickinson.net » Blog Archive » Journalism heroes http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12603 Andy Dickinson.net » Blog Archive » Journalism heroes Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:41:51 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12603 [...] The journalism education debate moves on a pace. Martin Stabe and  Andrew Grant Adamson, Kevin Anderson amongst others are coming up with some good stuff. It all  boils down to the same message: Journalism students need heroes. [...] [...] The journalism education debate moves on a pace. Martin Stabe and  Andrew Grant Adamson, Kevin Anderson amongst others are coming up with some good stuff. It all  boils down to the same message: Journalism students need heroes. [...]

]]> By: Martin Stabe » One site, two issues in online journalism http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12594 Martin Stabe » One site, two issues in online journalism Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:38:22 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12594 [...] This nicely sums up both the posts I wrote yesterday. Online journalism is being shaped by entrepreneurial journalists like Rick, who have recognised that their fate is no longer inextricably tied up with the fate of big print publishing companies. The Internet is disrupting publishing, not journalism. Journalism students should be paying close attention to journalists like Rick. [...] [...] This nicely sums up both the posts I wrote yesterday. Online journalism is being shaped by entrepreneurial journalists like Rick, who have recognised that their fate is no longer inextricably tied up with the fate of big print publishing companies. The Internet is disrupting publishing, not journalism. Journalism students should be paying close attention to journalists like Rick. [...]

]]> By: Paul Bradshaw http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12588 Paul Bradshaw Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:38:14 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12588 An inspiring post that I'll certainly be recommending to my students, and the point about careers early on is also one I'll be recommending we adopt. Last year we introduced a 'Production Event' in year one where journalism students work as a news agency - producing copy for print, TV, radio and online during a 'themed' week (like the BBC's Africa week, for instance). It's a great way to demonstrate the range of forms you may be asked to produce material for, gets students working with specialists in a range of media - and they love it! An inspiring post that I’ll certainly be recommending to my students, and the point about careers early on is also one I’ll be recommending we adopt. Last year we introduced a ‘Production Event’ in year one where journalism students work as a news agency – producing copy for print, TV, radio and online during a ‘themed’ week (like the BBC’s Africa week, for instance). It’s a great way to demonstrate the range of forms you may be asked to produce material for, gets students working with specialists in a range of media – and they love it!

]]> By: Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Tuesday squibs http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12569 Notes from a Teacher: Mark on Media » Tuesday squibs Wed, 17 Jan 2007 02:40:49 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12569 [...] Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes. Martin Stabe with a second post on the need to reimagine journalism education in light of new realities to give students a realistic look at what media is becoming — whether they want it or not. [...] [...] Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes. Martin Stabe with a second post on the need to reimagine journalism education in light of new realities to give students a realistic look at what media is becoming — whether they want it or not. [...]

]]> By: Dave Lee http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-12551 Dave Lee Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:06:12 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-12551 Hi Martin, This is the first post of yours that I have read, and it's prompted me to write an absolute essay on the subject on my own blog today. I think you have hit the nail on the head. I'm a journalism student at Lincoln University, and all formats of journalism are taught as completely seperate entities. Which as you rightly point out, is dangerously archaic. Hi Martin,

This is the first post of yours that I have read, and it’s prompted me to write an absolute essay on the subject on my own blog today.

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I’m a journalism student at Lincoln University, and all formats of journalism are taught as completely seperate entities. Which as you rightly point out, is dangerously archaic.

]]> By: NewAssignment.Net | an experiment in open-source reporting http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-16670 NewAssignment.Net | an experiment in open-source reporting Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-16670 <!--%kramer-pre%--> I’ve come across plenty of cries about how journalism schools need to re-think what they teach in order to better incorporate new media skills. The one that hit it home for me was reading advice from Rob Curley posted at the College Media Innovation blog<!--%kramer-post%--> I’ve come across plenty of cries about how journalism schools need to re-think what they teach in order to better incorporate new media skills. The one that hit it home for me was reading advice from Rob Curley posted at the College Media Innovation blog

]]> By: SOJo: Student of Online Journalism http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-16671 SOJo: Student of Online Journalism Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-16671 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Where is Raed ? Kevin Sites in the Hot Zone: Conflict Journalist & Video News Steve Yelvington Seth M. Gitner - Multimedia Journalist RConversation Richard Koci Hernandez Adrian Holovaty Rob Curley Martin Stabe Placeblogger Coconut Grove Grapevine MultiZ: Advance Multi Search Engine <!--%kramer-post%--> Where is Raed ? Kevin Sites in the Hot Zone: Conflict Journalist & Video News Steve Yelvington Seth M. Gitner – Multimedia Journalist RConversation Richard Koci Hernandez Adrian Holovaty Rob Curley Martin Stabe Placeblogger Coconut Grove Grapevine MultiZ: Advance Multi Search Engine

]]> By: SacredFacts http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-16672 SacredFacts Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-16672 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Martin Stabe » Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes <!--%kramer-post%--> Martin Stabe » Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes

]]> By: Online Journalism Blog http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-16673 Online Journalism Blog Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-16673 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes <!--%kramer-post%--> Note to journalism schools: give us new heroes

]]> By: DigiDave http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/comment-page-1/#comment-29126 DigiDave Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/01/16/note-to-journalism-schools-give-us-new-heroes/#comment-29126 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Creating a community atmosphere requires the right tools (software) as well as the right tone. Communities don't spring up overnight. They need to be cared for, managed, and constantly groomed. It is a skill. I've also heard calls for newjournalismheroes. So, just for fun, I've decided to create my own Community Dream Team -- people who I look up to as heroes in community building. I've cast a wide net. I might revisit this one day and cast a smaller net, limiting it to journalims heroes. But I<!--%kramer-post%--> Creating a community atmosphere requires the right tools (software) as well as the right tone. Communities don’t spring up overnight. They need to be cared for, managed, and constantly groomed. It is a skill. I’ve also heard calls for newjournalismheroes. So, just for fun, I’ve decided to create my own Community Dream Team — people who I look up to as heroes in community building. I’ve cast a wide net. I might revisit this one day and cast a smaller net, limiting it to journalims heroes. But I

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