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		<title>By: Blogs, bloggers &#38; blogging: the basics &#171; City Bloggers</title>
		<link>http://www.martinstabe.com/2007/02/03/blogging-vs-journalism-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-50239</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogs, bloggers &#38; blogging: the basics &#171; City Bloggers</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: December 3 &#171; Journalism Ethics</title>
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		<dc:creator>December 3 &#171; Journalism Ethics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] look at the issue here. British media blogger Martin Stabe has has some good observations here. Many blogs are commentary forums by political partisans who do more distorting than reporting. [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: April 16 &#171; Journalism Ethics</title>
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		<dc:creator>April 16 &#171; Journalism Ethics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] look at the issue here. British media blogger Martin Stabe has has some good observations here. Many blogs are commentary forums by political partisans who do more distorting than reporting. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: April 16 &#171; Journalism Ethics</title>
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		<dc:creator>April 16 &#171; Journalism Ethics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Has online journalism fundamentally changed the nature of journalism, or is it just a new technology, like radio of television were when they first appeared?  That&#8217;s a big debate now. The debate often takes such forms as, &#8220;Is blogging journalism?&#8221;  The answer, of course, can be either yes or no.  It&#8217;s not about the technology, it&#8217;s about the content.  British media blogger Martin Stabe has an interesting take on the question. Read it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Has online journalism fundamentally changed the nature of journalism, or is it just a new technology, like radio of television were when they first appeared?  That&#8217;s a big debate now. The debate often takes such forms as, &#8220;Is blogging journalism?&#8221;  The answer, of course, can be either yes or no.  It&#8217;s not about the technology, it&#8217;s about the content.  British media blogger Martin Stabe has an interesting take on the question. Read it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Discover From Your Favorite Topic or Web Page: www.end-of-journalism.org/</title>
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		<dc:creator>Discover From Your Favorite Topic or Web Page: www.end-of-journalism.org/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 17:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] (media journalism newspapers fun) Bookmark &#160;[Discover] Martin Stabe » Blogging vs journalism, yet again http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2007/02/03/blogging-vs-journalism-yet-again/ (journalism blogging [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Blogging vs journalism &#171; Netoo Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging vs journalism &#171; Netoo Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FridayNet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogging is transforming journalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>FridayNet &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogging is transforming journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this long post, Martin Stabe covers a lot of issues related to journalism and blogging. He gives the clearer [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blogging vs journalism &#171; netoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging vs journalism &#171; netoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Link Roundup (2/8/2007) &#187; The Bivings Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Link Roundup (2/8/2007) &#187; The Bivings Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blogging vs journalism, yet againUK journalist Martin Sable on the relationship of blogging to the mainstream media.&#160; Via the excellent Cybersoc by Robin Hamman.&#160; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Cohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Cohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 03:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Great post Martin. I particularly like your thoughts on the role that social bookmarking sites will play (those people become trusted sources of under-reported news) and the future of networked journalism.

But overall -- this hits it right on the head. The debate is not only over. In many ways it never existed: &quot;Blogs are just a publishing technology, which can be used for distributing any type of content, including journalism. Some bloggers are journalists...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Great post Martin. I particularly like your thoughts on the role that social bookmarking sites will play (those people become trusted sources of under-reported news) and the future of networked journalism.</p>
<p>But overall &#8212; this hits it right on the head. The debate is not only over. In many ways it never existed: &#8220;Blogs are just a publishing technology, which can be used for distributing any type of content, including journalism. Some bloggers are journalists&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting point about the improvements to blogging software. Blogger.com has a nifty drag and drop designing feature... I can see later versions of Wordpress etc giving the option to do something similar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting point about the improvements to blogging software. Blogger.com has a nifty drag and drop designing feature&#8230; I can see later versions of WordPress etc giving the option to do something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Innovation in College Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogging and traditional journalism: circling an age-old discussion</title>
		<link>http://www.martinstabe.com/2007/02/03/blogging-vs-journalism-yet-again/comment-page-1/#comment-13578</link>
		<dc:creator>Innovation in College Media &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogging and traditional journalism: circling an age-old discussion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] comes Martin Stabe with another great post on the subject, and Howard Owens with a rejoinder about ways in which blogging (along with other Web-based [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Linda is referring to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2006/08/trying_to_stop_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this criticism&lt;/a&gt; of an article she wrote last summer.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Linda is referring to <a href="http://www.completetosh.com/weblog/2006/08/trying_to_stop_.html" rel="nofollow">this criticism</a> of an article she wrote last summer.)</p>
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		<title>By: howardowens.com: media blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogging, and more, is a threat to traditional publishing</title>
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		<dc:creator>howardowens.com: media blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Blogging, and more, is a threat to traditional publishing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Stabe addresses the age old question of blogger vs. journalist (age old in Internet [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s an excellent rundown Martin and one I think I will read and re-read. 

Do you remember when I did my piece saying that wannabe journalists shouldn&#039;t think that blogging was the be-all and end-all for a career in journalism and it caused a ripple of criticism from those more in the know than the likes of me? 

Well, months later and having launched my own &lt;a href=&quot;http://passionatemedia.typepad.com/kids&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog on a specialist subject&lt;/a&gt; the thing that I still find hard to swallow is this notion that because the &quot;conversation has moved on&quot;, people like the student you have just helped, or me, a journalist of nearly 20 years&#039; standing, can still sometimes feel &quot;outside&quot; of the conversation - who is to say what that conversation is and where it&#039;s going? 

Rightly or wrongly, I find there is an elitism among the &#039;old school&#039; that can seem quite distasteful - like say someone who was a fan of a major band before they hit the big time and for that reason feels they can look down on anyone who asks questions or prefers the &quot;newer stuff.&quot; 

Experience has taught me in recent months that yes journalists and bloggers can be one and the same thing, but still there is massive antipathy in some quarters among both camps. 

Online spats about whether bloggers should have a code of conduct, or should be more respectful of media law, show that despite the convergence of the two, there for the time being at least, remains, in some people&#039;s eyes, quite a gulf.

Now I really should be watching Dancing on Ice so I&#039;m off. Thanks again for this, it is very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent rundown Martin and one I think I will read and re-read. </p>
<p>Do you remember when I did my piece saying that wannabe journalists shouldn&#8217;t think that blogging was the be-all and end-all for a career in journalism and it caused a ripple of criticism from those more in the know than the likes of me? </p>
<p>Well, months later and having launched my own <a href="http://passionatemedia.typepad.com/kids" rel="nofollow">blog on a specialist subject</a> the thing that I still find hard to swallow is this notion that because the &#8220;conversation has moved on&#8221;, people like the student you have just helped, or me, a journalist of nearly 20 years&#8217; standing, can still sometimes feel &#8220;outside&#8221; of the conversation &#8211; who is to say what that conversation is and where it&#8217;s going? </p>
<p>Rightly or wrongly, I find there is an elitism among the &#8216;old school&#8217; that can seem quite distasteful &#8211; like say someone who was a fan of a major band before they hit the big time and for that reason feels they can look down on anyone who asks questions or prefers the &#8220;newer stuff.&#8221; </p>
<p>Experience has taught me in recent months that yes journalists and bloggers can be one and the same thing, but still there is massive antipathy in some quarters among both camps. </p>
<p>Online spats about whether bloggers should have a code of conduct, or should be more respectful of media law, show that despite the convergence of the two, there for the time being at least, remains, in some people&#8217;s eyes, quite a gulf.</p>
<p>Now I really should be watching Dancing on Ice so I&#8217;m off. Thanks again for this, it is very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  Next student who emails me will be directed here.</description>
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		<title>By: Kristine Lowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristine Lowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;signal in the process. They walk into the pub, hear the banter of drunken idiots in the front, and walk out in disgust — not realising that they are missing a lively and well-informed discussion going on at the quiet table in the back.  Stabe, again: Bloggin vs journalism yet again  It&#039;s not bloggers vs journalists. Blogging is transforming the journalism of ‘mainstream’ news sites, not supplanting it  Chris Cobler, The Tribune (where he until recently was publisher, now managing editor at Poynter. Requires registration) via &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->signal in the process. They walk into the pub, hear the banter of drunken idiots in the front, and walk out in disgust — not realising that they are missing a lively and well-informed discussion going on at the quiet table in the back.  Stabe, again: Bloggin vs journalism yet again  It&#8217;s not bloggers vs journalists. Blogging is transforming the journalism of ‘mainstream’ news sites, not supplanting it  Chris Cobler, The Tribune (where he until recently was publisher, now managing editor at Poynter. Requires registration) via <!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt; Martin Stabe&#039;s excellent response to a student query about blogging vs journalism &lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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