http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/ A UK-centric look at new media and online journalism Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:09:20 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-34964 The viewspaper that's devoid of views! | Greenslade | Guardian Unlimited Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:37:23 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-34964 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] been teasing The Independent about its pathetic excursion into blogging. As both Grant-Adamson and Martin Stabe were quick to note, the Indy's promise hasn't been matched by performance. Day after day nothing [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] been teasing The Independent about its pathetic excursion into blogging. As both Grant-Adamson and Martin Stabe were quick to note, the Indy’s promise hasn’t been matched by performance. Day after day nothing [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-31378 Brian Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:53:14 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-31378 Best written comment I've read in ages. If only the general standard of news blogs was up to this, we'd all be reading everyone...! Thank you. Best written comment I’ve read in ages. If only the general standard of news blogs was up to this, we’d all be reading everyone…!
Thank you.

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-15873 Martin Stabe » A different online strategy: Lag behind deliberately Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:52:38 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-15873 [...] if the Independent’s short-lived experiment with blogging is anything to go by, there is, of course no guarantee that this approach will be successful. The [...] [...] if the Independent’s short-lived experiment with blogging is anything to go by, there is, of course no guarantee that this approach will be successful. The [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-12342 mathewingram.com/media » Newspaper blogs: How not to do them Sun, 14 Jan 2007 03:03:01 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-12342 [...] In a previous post, Andrew notes that “the best thing that can be said about The Independent’s entry into newspaper blogging is that they are wasting very little time on it.” Touche. Martin Stabe has also written about the somewhat, er… lame-rific blogging done by the Indy, saying that “the Independent’s experiment with blogging has only been around for just over a month now, but I think it’s time move it to the central place of (dis)honour in the “blogwagon” hall of shame.” [...] [...] In a previous post, Andrew notes that “the best thing that can be said about The Independent’s entry into newspaper blogging is that they are wasting very little time on it.” Touche. Martin Stabe has also written about the somewhat, er… lame-rific blogging done by the Indy, saying that “the Independent’s experiment with blogging has only been around for just over a month now, but I think it’s time move it to the central place of (dis)honour in the “blogwagon” hall of shame.” [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-12333 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Blogging behind gauze Sat, 13 Jan 2007 22:56:47 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-12333 [...] : Meanwhile, the Guardian and others are delighting in making fun of the pathetic blogging effort of the oddly fuddy-duddyist newspaper in the UK, the Independent. Says Roy Greenslade: Day after day nothing appears on its blog and the single entry this year turns out to be an updated posting of no consequence. For a paper that likes to be known as a viewspaper it seems rather short of views - or news, or anything at all - on its blog. [...] [...] : Meanwhile, the Guardian and others are delighting in making fun of the pathetic blogging effort of the oddly fuddy-duddyist newspaper in the UK, the Independent. Says Roy Greenslade: Day after day nothing appears on its blog and the single entry this year turns out to be an updated posting of no consequence. For a paper that likes to be known as a viewspaper it seems rather short of views – or news, or anything at all – on its blog. [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-12322 Embarassing Dad - the Independent tries blogging at kierenmccarthy.co.uk Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:06:34 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-12322 [...] I’m a bit late to this one, with Charles Arthur, Andrew Grant-Adamson, Martin Stabe; and Roy Greenslade all drawing collective gasps and sniffled laughter, but just in case there is anyone interested in the UK media that reads this blog but none of those above… [...] [...] I’m a bit late to this one, with Charles Arthur, Andrew Grant-Adamson, Martin Stabe; and Roy Greenslade all drawing collective gasps and sniffled laughter, but just in case there is anyone interested in the UK media that reads this blog but none of those above… [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-12236 Charles on… anything that comes along » The Independent has a blog. Or blogs. You hadn’t noticed? Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:14:32 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-12236 [...] Via Greenslade to Martin Stabe and Andrew Grant-Adamson, The Independent has a blog which is so awful (think cheap: think getting a free Typepad account and then possibly forgetting the password, or not reminding people to update it, or possibly not having enough - or any? - machines capable of running an operating system introduced in 2001) that the kindest thing would be to bin them and start again. [...] [...] Via Greenslade to Martin Stabe and Andrew Grant-Adamson, The Independent has a blog which is so awful (think cheap: think getting a free Typepad account and then possibly forgetting the password, or not reminding people to update it, or possibly not having enough – or any? – machines capable of running an operating system introduced in 2001) that the kindest thing would be to bin them and start again. [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-11845 Martin Stabe » Why (some) old media orgs struggle with blogs Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:58:36 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-11845 [...] Alan Morrison has a great post that neatly summarises the common strand underlying the things Andrew Grant-Adamson (repeatedly) Kevin Anderson, Paul Bradshaw and I (not to mention loads of other people) have been saying over the past few months about established media’s sometimes clumsy efforts at tacking social media “stuff” onto their existing publishing business: [D]on’t just bolt blogging or video onto your existing publishing model, because if you do you’re missing half of the point: contributing to these new media is a lot about having a conversation with their readers, NOT just megaphoning down to them, as per the traditional model. [...] [...] Alan Morrison has a great post that neatly summarises the common strand underlying the things Andrew Grant-Adamson (repeatedly) Kevin Anderson, Paul Bradshaw and I (not to mention loads of other people) have been saying over the past few months about established media’s sometimes clumsy efforts at tacking social media “stuff” onto their existing publishing business: [D]on’t just bolt blogging or video onto your existing publishing model, because if you do you’re missing half of the point: contributing to these new media is a lot about having a conversation with their readers, NOT just megaphoning down to them, as per the traditional model. [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-11386 Martin Stabe » Five tests for newspaper blogs Tue, 02 Jan 2007 12:35:07 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-11386 [...] Andrew Grant-Adamson thinks my assessment of the Independent’s half-hearted blogging effort was “almost too kind” and neatly summarises the long-running debate about the purpose of mainstream news sites’ blogs into five tests for newspaper blogs to help editors avoid similarly poor results. [...] [...] Andrew Grant-Adamson thinks my assessment of the Independent’s half-hearted blogging effort was “almost too kind” and neatly summarises the long-running debate about the purpose of mainstream news sites’ blogs into five tests for newspaper blogs to help editors avoid similarly poor results. [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-11384 Wordblog » Blog Archive » Five tests to avoid blog failure Tue, 02 Jan 2007 11:10:58 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-11384 [...] The best thing that can be said about The Independent’s entry into newspaper blogging is that they are wasting very little time on it. Martin Stabe took a look just after Christmas and reached the conclusion that the paper’s “cringeworthy effort at blogging” needed sorting out. He was almost too kind. [...] [...] The best thing that can be said about The Independent’s entry into newspaper blogging is that they are wasting very little time on it. Martin Stabe took a look just after Christmas and reached the conclusion that the paper’s “cringeworthy effort at blogging” needed sorting out. He was almost too kind. [...]

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-16407 Médiablog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-16407 <!--%kramer-pre%--> a brit (online) lapokban megjeleő blogokról, most újabb torzszülött kerülhet be gyűjteményébe. Az Independent szinte minden lehetséges hibát elkövetett blogjai indításakor, ezeket Martin Stable részletesen elemzi is.   Valamennyi hiba alapja az, hogy az Independent illetékesei nem értik a blogolás lényegét. Ahelyett, hogy találtak volna néhány elkötelezett, lelkes bloggert,  kötelező feladatnak kiosztották valakiknek a blogok írását. Az<!--%kramer-post%-->  a brit (online) lapokban megjeleő blogokról, most újabb torzszülött kerülhet be gyűjteményébe. Az Independent szinte minden lehetséges hibát elkövetett blogjai indításakor, ezeket Martin Stable részletesen elemzi is.   Valamennyi hiba alapja az, hogy az Independent illetékesei nem értik a blogolás lényegét. Ahelyett, hogy találtak volna néhány elkötelezett, lelkes bloggert,  kötelező feladatnak kiosztották valakiknek a blogok írását. Az

]]> http://www.martinstabe.com/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/comment-page-1/#comment-16408 Jobs in journalism, news and resources for journalists Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.martinstabe.com/blog/2006/12/28/the-independents-blogs-must-do-better/#comment-16408 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Best of the rest • Indy blogs: must do better • Blogger flees town after branding it a s***-hole • BSkyB buys 365 Media Group • Newspapers and Cricket Australia lock horns over clip usage • Internet to take more newspaper ad money in 2007<!--%kramer-post%--> Best of the rest • Indy blogs: must do better • Blogger flees town after branding it a s***-hole • BSkyB buys 365 Media Group • Newspapers and Cricket Australia lock horns over clip usage • Internet to take more newspaper ad money in 2007

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